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| Pnoga Registered user Username: Pnoga Post Number: 363 Registered: 1-2007  |
Matt 20:28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many. Mark 2:27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath, Therefore the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Matt 11:28-30 "Come to Me, all of you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. All of you, take up My yoke and learn from Me, because I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for yourselves, For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." Jeremiah 17:19-22 Thus the LORD said to me: “Go and stand in the gate of the children of the people, by which the kings of Judah come in and by which they go out, and in all the gates of Jerusalem; and say to them, ‘Hear the word of the LORD, you kings of Judah, and all Judah, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, who enter by these gates. Thus says the LORD: “Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the Sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem; nor carry a burden out of your houses on the Sabbath day, nor do any work, but hallow the Sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers Let us all enter God's rest (Hebrews 4). Paul | ||
| Jonvil Registered user Username: Jonvil Post Number: 379 Registered: 4-2007 |
Happy Sabbath!! | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 6257 Registered: 9-2006  |
Didn't yall know its a sin to work on Saturday? That's why I'm going fishing. Of course I'll need a couple formers to bait my hook, as that's work. River | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1266 Registered: 7-2007 |
I'm SO GLAD that Jesus is my Rest now!  And He invites all to enter His Rest. The seventh-day Sabbath (given a couple weeks or so before Mount Sinai - see Exodus 16 - which is why the commandment says "Remember") is a shadow of the Rest to be had in God (which Rest Israel didn't enter though they were keeping the Sabbath day - Hebrews 4:6). | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 8211 Registered: 3-2004  |
Since reading the NT back in 2004 I have thought that God wanted the rest He started on the first 7th day to continue. It did not because of sin entering the world. Reading Hebrews is what confirmed that in my mind. Diana L | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 761 Registered: 12-2007 |
I agree that the "rest" was continue from that first 7th day, but I do question the way I have heard it explained in a couple of sermons I have heard saying that.... 'the 7th day was never to end' Since God did create the sun to light the day and the moon and stars to light the night,,, I believe he did fully intend there to be recurring days and nights,,, but the REST in Him and with Him was to be continual through both days and nights not just on every 7th day but every day, every night 24/7. Anyway... thats how I see it. Francie | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 8213 Registered: 3-2004 |
Francie, You explained it better then I did, b/c that is what I have believed since I read Hebrews and learned about resting in God. Thanks. Diana L | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 2144 Registered: 5-2007  |
Rest, as we usually understand it, is the result of sin becoming a part of our lives. Until sin and spiritual death, our physical bodies did not decay and require regeneration to get on with the next day's work. God's rest simply means he ceased creating. He stopped creation after six days of work. He wasn't tired, he simply was finished and it was good. When God compared the seventh day Sabbath he gave to the Hebrew people to his rest from creation and declared it holy, he was pointing forward to Jesus Christ, our true rest...from the consequences of sin. The key question is how does anything or any person become holy (righteous) when only God is holy? The key word is 'holy'. Only God is holy. The day was declared holy because it pointed to Jesus Christ, who is God. When Moses saw the burning bush he was upon holy ground because God was there. When he went up the mountain, it was holy because God was on the mountain. The tabernacle became only because God descended upon it in a cloud by day and fire by night. When we are declared holy it is because we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Fearless Phil | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 1051 Registered: 3-2009 |
SDA say that Saturday is holy because God is in it in a special way since he blessed it and sanctified (made holy) it. Hec | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1999 Registered: 4-2000  |
Phil, Excellent points in your last paragraph of Post #2144. There are no holy days in the Christian calendar. Sunday, the Resurrection Day or Lord's Day, is a very special day for believers--the weekly Easter celebrated by Christians worldwide. It was God Himself who predestined the first day of the week as the New Covenant Day--not the Pope nor a Roman Emperor. The Christian worships the Lord on the first day of the week, the day Jesus rose from the dead, because that resurrection day was the day mankind again could rest in the joy of the Lord. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1267 Registered: 7-2007 |
But we don't have to "keep" it like a Sabbath (abstaining from work, etc.), because Jesus is our Sabbath! | ||
| Pnoga Registered user Username: Pnoga Post Number: 365 Registered: 1-2007 |
Phil, good point. to that note, God's Sabbath is God resting in us, through Jesus is the way to this rest. We only receive the Spirit by confessing Jesus as Lord. It is by His completed works that we enter God's rest. By stopping our toil, and labor we enter freely. How great that the Holy God dwells in us, we are made Holy by His presence. I have read an article a while back, I will look for it, But a Jewish scholar was saying that when God finished creation He rested Himself on all creation. He breathed Himself on all that He had done. God created and gave Himself, He dwelt among His creation. Lev 19:30 You must keep my Sabbaths and rever My sanctuary; I am the Lord Lev 23:3 For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there must be a Sabbath of complete rest, a sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; it is a Sabbath to the Lord in all your dwellings. Lev 26:2 You must keep My Sabbaths and honor My sanctuary; I am the Lord Exodus 35:3 Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day. Paul | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1271 Registered: 7-2007 |
The Sabbath was the sign/seal of the covenant God made with Israel. It was only with Israel and started a couple weeks or so before Mount Sinai and was to go until the Seed (Jesus) should come. It foreshadowed Jesus. Also notice that when God rested on the seventh day of creation, it doesn't say "and the evening and the morning" like it does on all the other days of creation. God is still resting from His work and is inviting us to enter His rest. Exodus 31:13 "Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: 'Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord Who sanctifies you.'" God gave Israel the Sabbath when they had come to "the Wilderness of Sin"..."on the fifteen day of the second month after they departed from the land of Egypt." Exodus 16:1 and Exodus 16:23. God gave Israel the rest of the law when they came to Sinai "in the third month after" they'd come out of Egypt. Exodus 19:1 The law wasn't given to their fathers. Deut. 5:3 "The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us..." Deut. 4:13 "So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone." The Law wasn't given to Gentiles. Romans 2:14 "for when Gentiles, who do not have the law..." The Law came 430 years after Abraham. Galatians 3:17 "...that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later..." Galatians 3:19 "What purpose then doeas the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come..." Colossians 2:16,17 "Therefore let no one pass judgment on you... with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ." | ||
| Ninanish Registered user Username: Ninanish Post Number: 25 Registered: 5-2010 |
I will quote myself from an article I wrote on the FB page for former SDAs in Serbia: There are two great works of God described in the Bible: creation and salvation. God created for six days, finished His work and rested on the seventh day. There was no ending point of this rest of God, it was supposed to last for ever. God being in rest from His finished work (creation), entered the everlasting personal community with the man (Adam). However, Adam broke this sabbath (rest) of God, by falling into sin. What this means, "broke the Lord's sabbath"? It means that God had to cease His rest and start working again, this time, to save Adam from his own sin! So the eternal God's sabbath was interrupted, because God commenced another work, this time the salvation. Ever since the Genesis, to the end of the Old Testament, we see what God had done in this great work of His. We see that there is one event in the OT which is the most prominent of all others, the most significant, and involved great miracles and deeds of the Lord. That is the Exodus from Egypt. That was just a first phase of the God's great work of salvation, that was just a preview of the great salvation that was yet to be done in the future. So this event was to show the salvation of God, this great salvation of the Israelites from the slavery is yet only a shadow of the great salvation God had promised a man, a salvation from sin and death. The Exodus meant that the first phase of the God's work was finished. So God entered a rest, but this time, this rest was not eternal, as the one in the beginning. Why? Because this was just one phase of the greater work, and the work of salvation of mankind was not yet finished. So God was in the middle of His work! He cannot enter eternal rest before His work is finished! Since only a part of the work was done, a significant part, God could enter a temporary rest, a weekly rest, and only after the Exodus the sabbath day was mentioned for the first time, and established there and then, because the God's first salvation, a shadow of the greater salvation, was done. So there we had a weekly sabbath of God, temporary sabbath, a shadow of the eternal sabbath God would enter one day His great work of salvation was finished. What's happening in the NT? We see that God had finished His greater work of salvation in Christ, and we can know for certain that He finally entered the eternal rest, once again, and once and for all. The interrupted eternal rest in the beginning was re-established again, it is renewed in Christ. If God finished His great work of salvation, then He entered the eternal rest! The fourth commandment says: Observe the rest of God (sabbath), and cease all your works when the rest of God is in progress. For Israelites, the rest of God was happening only once a week. For Christians, the rest of God is in progress all the time, and not only once a week. So those Christians who don't see that they should be in God's rest all the time, who observe only one day now when the eternal God's rest is reestablished, they are actually breaking the fourth commandment which says: Observe the God's rest. So the fourth commandment is applied to Christians all the time, 24/7, and not only once a week. So rest in Christ, cease from all your works to deserve salvation, because you cannot add or take away anything from the completed deed of the Lord. God has already finished His work and entered His rest. He wants you to enter His rest too. He has already done everything, you don't need to do anything from now on, your salvation is given to you for free. So enjoy God's rest, and stay in the Lord's sabbath, and that is Christ! Exodus was a shadow of a greater thing to come. Weekly rest was a shadow of a greater thing to come. Christ, as Salvation, as Sabbath, is the BODY, the SUBSTANCE, the fulfillment of the shadow. Read Hebrews 4 and Colossians 2:16.17, and all the Bible, to have a full and clear view of the importance, establishment, interruption, periodical restoration, and finally, to the complete restoration of the sabbath (rest) of the Lord. | ||
| Yenc Registered user Username: Yenc Post Number: 90 Registered: 6-2008 |
Wonderfully put, you guys! And I do "remember the Sabbath days" when I broke them by working so hard at trying to "keep" them--not knowing that was an impossible paradox. Praise God for every word of Hebrews 4! | ||
| Cindy Registered user Username: Cindy Post Number: 857 Registered: 7-2000 |
Ninanish, a very good post! I am so grateful to know that ONCE I ENTER HIS REST, I can STAY in it! And celebrate that holiness of time always... because Jesus is there! No further concerns as to when to be "holy" or as to what constitutes "holiness".... Believing in Jesus' death and resurrection for us, we are now IN CHRIST! And, as Peter wrote in 1 Peter 1:15&16: "But just as he who called you is holy, so BE HOLY IN ALL YOU DO; for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy." grace, cindy grace, cindy | ||
| Cindy Registered user Username: Cindy Post Number: 858 Registered: 7-2000 |
oops! I guess just one signature above would be enough... |
